Thursday, July 21, 2005

cr3do1: Can't Francis Kissling just lead a quiet humble life?

I guess not. Jon Paul on Francis Kissling and her latest nonsense is right here. The Reasonable media could not ask for a better darling. Ms. Kissling appears to be a Reasonable foaming-at-the-mouth zealot of Moloch in Foolable's clothing. She's the noble rebel against the evil Empire of Crusty-old Catholicism. She's out to save her Church for the slaughter of innocents-on-demand. Does she really circulate papers? I guess so. Jon Paul of cr2do1 observes her latest folly:
Frances Kissling, president of Catholics for a Free Choice, said it is making no assumptions on Roberts' personal adherence to interpretations of the "morality" of issues such as abortion, contraception, reproductive rights, the death penalty and gay rights. Roberts is Roman Catholic.

"We fully understand that regardless of those views, an educated Catholic knows that they have a personal right to dissent from church positions and an even stronger responsibility to protect the right of all Americans to follow or disregard the teachings of their denominations on these issues," Kissling said. "Modern Catholic social thought accepts and supports a legitimate distinction between church and state." -,2933,163160,00.html
To which, he responds:
Since when does a CCD education give someone the intellectual or theological training necessary to understand half of what the Church teaches and why? Most Priests do not understand this, I don't understand this. And yet, we have Francis Kissling, the unofficial spokeswoman of modern 'Catholicism', running around here and declaring why 2000 years of Catholic teaching is wrong. Her best theological reasoning is because people disagree with it, so in order to accommodate those who disagree, the Church has to change. I would first like to know where she gets her statistics, and secondly why things must change when people disagree.

There have been many slaughtering in the world, from Hitler to Stalin, that many in their nations agreed with, does that justify these murders? Just because people agreed with them. Saint Augustine said: "Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, and right is right even if no one is doing it". God gave us the Church for situations like this, when so many disagree with the Church. The Church has to be that beacon of truth which guides people back to her. Truth does not change.
He goes on to support his protest with citations of Pope Benedict XVI. His bottom line?
So to you Francis Kissling, and to all others, we will not quit, we will not change, we will not be relativists. We will continue to preach the message of Jesus Christ to the world, whether the world wants to hear it or not. The Church has seen worse, the Church has fought worse, and the thing which always seems to come out unharmed is the Church. You will be gone, I will be gone, but the Church and all her teaching will still be here. The faith of the Church is not based on polls or surveys; it is based on Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Amen, brother! Preach it! The Fool knows what he says!

If Francis Kissling can show us where in the gospel Jesus Christ gurantees that she is "the Rock upon whom I will build my Church" (Mt 16:18), then maybe Fools will pay her some mind. Until then, she can bray into the wind, and all we'll do is laugh.

Her "personal right to dissent" is so laughably out of place that I hardly no where to begin. How about this? When one dissents from Catholic moral doctrine, one turns away from virtue rooted in Truth. One turns from the Way that leads to Eternal Life, namely, Jesus Christ. For he has made known his path to we, his little ones, through his chosen instrument, the Church. Therefore, dissent leads one only to sin, the choice to part from the Lord. Since the Lord is life, dissent is a path to death. Perhaps that's why Ms. Kissling claims this dissent as her "personal right". She has chosen the right to kill the unborn, and wants all others to do the same. Therefore, she's already walked the road to death.

The constitution rightly forbids Congress to establish a state Church. Nothing in the constitution, however, forces the United States to separate law from Truth. In fact, the more laws that the country makes that defy the Natural law present in creation, the more corrupt and unsustainable society becomes. Ms. Kissling's prescription for the nation is cyanide, not medicine.

We will not bow to you, troubled sister. We pray that you recover your senses and repent of the evil you've done. We hope that you join us in the life we share with Christ in the Church. However, we already know where our loyalty lay. You call upon us to abandon our Lord in favor of Absolute Individualism. You chase an illusion across the desert of Nihilism to which you've confined yourself. Shake your angry fingers at us all you like, but we will not join you there. We stand shoulder to shoulder with all Fools, especially our Foolish Pope, and say to you, "no more of our confused brothers will you snatch. Carry on yourself with whomever Reasonable people choose to follow you. The Fools stay with us."

Oh, and we'll be taking back those Reasonable folk as soon as they start acting Foolish.

Christ stands with his Church. Those that stand against him have already lost. They just don't know it, yet.

Update: Dr. Thursday notes a slight error in attribution by Jon-Paul. The quote in question?
Saint Augustine said: "Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, and right is right even if no one is doing it".
Dr. Thursday responds:
I think that was G. K. Chesterton, not St. Augustine - unless GKC was quoting. Here is the GKC source:

Right is right, even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is wrong about it.
ILN May 11, 1907 CW27:463
I confirmed the Doctor's assertion here and here.

My Hat's off to the Doctor for helping this Fool stay accurate. Notwithstanding the mis-attribution, Jon-Paul has made an excellent case. May we have more Fools like him!